After spending so much of LAST WORDS demonstrating what one should not do in a cave, it seemed prudent to speak to an expert about the realities of caving. Anmar Mirza was a generous resource during my research, and his work should make anyone who goes underground feel a bit safer — as national coordinator of the National Cave Rescue Commission, his focus on educating cavers and first-responders has saved numerous lives. In this video, Anmar talks a bit about rescue operations, exploration, and the allure caves have held for him since childhood. Watch part two of the interview below.